Aspen Summer Session May 30, 2003 Afternoon Discussion: What's the Best Way to Find Clusters? Methods: Optical can reach >90% completeness w/ 10% contamination Donahue/Scharf 43 x-ray cand, 150 optical -large scatter betw. Lx and Lopt -Gilbank finds RCS technique,MF find all x-ray clusters; x-ray only find fraction of optical sources. Factor of 10 range in Lx at given luminosity -how to get around fact that galaxies form before cluster? How to get Rich-mass reln. at hi-z -if we can't measure DM halos, then throw it all out and just do correlation functions? --large payoff if you can observationally predict virial mass -can we use projected galaxy distribution? NO! (Risa) galaxies do not trace DM distribution -Weak lensing can get shape info if you fit a-priori profile (ie NFW). May need to stack or average clusters. -what fraction of clusters are not NFW? depends on z X-ray 10% contamination, 100% complete above flux threshold. But not above mass threshold... flux goes as dens^2, so high contrast, dark background traces the virial region of DM halo which is nice for simulations Optical surveys go lower in mass than will produce reasonable Xray luminosity Weak lensing extremely inefficient, but may be good for high mass cut only way to find dark clusters SZ low resolution; galaxy radio emission can fill in SZ decrement need multile frequencies, understanding of point source contributions Bent Tail Radio Sources Best: Observer wants completeness in observable + purity Theorist wants completeness in mass + purity NASA admin wants to maximize clusters/dollar Large scatter in Mass-observable reln will lead to large impurity Is factor of 10 scatter in Lx-R compatible with observer Lx-M and R-M relations NEED TO DERIVE Lx-M relation for large OPTICALLY SELECTED SAMPLE!!!!! GILBANK THESIS EBELING X-ray fluxes of Abell clusters HENRY 500 sq. deg. Increasing scatter at lower mass. Kband light well correlated with mass